“Battle, suffering, stress, lack of sleep. In addition to all this, a miserable salary of 4,700-5,000 lei from which you can not allow anything in a university center”, so describes a resident in Romania. In this context, future doctors answered the question: “Why do I do medicine?”
The state of the health system in Romania worries many medical students. Photo: AFP
Interesting debate on the Reddit platform on the doctor’s career in Romania.
“Why do you do medicine?”, Asks a resident and comes with arguments against a health career.
“I don’t understand how you can do medicine seeing the situation in the Romanian medical system. To break up 11-12 years of life for what? Battle of play, suffering, stress, lack of sleep. And besides all this, a miserable salary of 4700-5000 lei from which you cannot afford anything in a large university center. And after residency you are obliged to leave the country. Reorient yourself to something else, you can be happy and make money out of something else. You cannot have a beautiful life as a doctor with family. I have friends who take 8,000-10,000 from other professions without a game. For students who give the bachelor now, do not choose medicine, destroy your life. For me it was a passion, but it is not worth giving life for that. And the faculty is not the heavy part, but the residency in which you are a slave. And besides all this, in the current economic situation, the salaries will not increase the purchasing power decreasing. Salaries will be enormously eroded by inflation month by month. From a salary of 4,800 lei of resident, to give 2,000 lei on a rent studio, 300 lei utilities, 1,000 lei food (+hospital), you have nothing left. If you do not have a car and you want to buy, surprise, you do not have money for the car, not even for the fuel, if you already have it. You have no money for anything. I hate this choice ””the resident wrote.
The post was commented by hundreds of future and current doctors.
“Okay, I arrived in year 6 totally exhausted, in Burn Out and I honestly would have no physical or mental power to do medicine again.”
“Luck makes that at 18 we could not think of all these things, otherwise no one would give medicine. With my mind now, I would not recommend this area to the greatest enemies. All the satisfactions have gradually disappeared until the year.
“Try to target some specialties that allow you to have life, that money will not be that it will not be in the country. Gen dermato, radio, MF, laboratory … with the reluctance endo, rea, allergo (depending on the center) … wherever you do not have to destroy you slowly and surely. “
“You’re right. I think after every exam in medicine I felt physically and mentally exhausted and I would have had more time to learn. The young doctors (generalists, dentists), pharmacists, engineers, teachers. They did something, they did the school to bring a change for the best of the Romanian. If we do nothing, we do not change things for our good what are we waiting for? At 18, you do not have a vision of what you will be at 24 years old as a general doctor, without a job, stressed to go well with the residency exam, to have a job, a contract. “
“As an anecdote, let’s say that statistical in medicine there was a place where it is well earned and with a volume of work OK, a place where it is good (but with an extremely large volume), a place where it does not earn well, but you do not break with work and a place where you do not work well and work very hard.“
“The changes in the system are major”
A patient comes with another perspective:
“I have been following you from the shadow for some time. I am 47 years old and the glory of heaven, I am healthy and mine. In this life, however, I had a few tangents with the Romanian hospitals. The first time in 2010, when I was born, then tangentially that my mother’s belonging to a trivial operation and the last time as an appendicitis last year. I live in Timisoara. I want to tell you, that I see that you do not see the beautiful part, that between 2010 and 2024 the changes in the system are major. From the conditions in the hospital, food, but especially the attitude of the employees, from the nurses to the doctors, everything is on the plus. It is true that it is still work, and please, the young ones, go to medical-patient communication courses, there is a great need. But the changes are there and by your will, they will continue. If you have the right attitude, you will learn and you will not become self -sufficient that the oldest now, if you will always be curious, if you always have in mind that medicine you do for people, not just for money, I guarantee that you will have satisfaction and success. People pull to doctors who know how to communicate, who are informed, who make ties, which are human. And this will be your greatest satisfaction. ”
A resident contradicts the patient: “I understand that from the outside you can see this and I agree that we may not have to forget the noble purpose of the job … But believe me that when you are slave and abused by “great doctors”, forced to have a nausea program and at the same time, without too much material resources after so many years of work … you do not burn these ideas. After a long period of Burnout, I also started to easily lose what was once passion and curiosity for this job and even though I start to reset, it’s very difficult. And it does not seem to be ok to say that we are subject to this “for people” thing that this idea of self -sacrifice will get us sick at one point. “
Another resident presented the negative things in the Romanian system compared to other medical systems:
“Abuse at the workplace on the part: the head of the section, the big doctors, the colleagues, the nurses.
Guards of 24 hours after which you did not rest, but you have to stay at work with normal program.
Unpaid guards until year 3.
Holidays for which you have to be merciful to take them, that as a favor is done, not that it is your right.
Like the guards, the overtime (over-time) hours. As well as bonuses that are either unpaid or paid to a minimum. Idem with the hours of the room in the case of surgical specialties.
The classes in the curriculum are only on paper, they are non -existent in reality. There must be 200 hours per year on my specialty. It was made 0 hours a year.
Low salary compared to the standard of living in the university centers.
Low salary compared to courses, specialty books or congresses to be up to date with all the new information in our fields. (Don’t put that with the pirate of books, please)
Limited or non -existent opportunities for employment after ending the residency. ”
Laboratory specialist in the Capital: 7,000 lei
A laboratory specialist in the Capital claims that it has a salary of about 7,700 lei, while all corporate friends of the same age earns 12-15,000 /month: “It also gives everyone in the doctors, on TV, election campaigns. At least I feel super disadvantaged (…) Unfortunately, medicine is no longer what it was (the private is only a business, the younger you are, the more you are the slave of the old ones). You learn that the sucker 10-12 years of life, you have a specialist, With the salary halfway to them. physician. ”
Another specialist explains: “Now student year 6, at Vita E Bella. Then there is 5 years of residents in which you believe in Prometheus. Maybe you also take a specialty with an increase (as I took) and you earn 7000-8000 lei and again Zmandoi. To see you after you finish as you go to Giurgiu, Rădăuți and the damn mother …. Leave us with the texts of generation Z. Believe only fairies and rescuers. “
“I do not think there was another nation more vaicaroasa, more pessimistic and less resilience”
Some commentators pose these problems on account of the Romanian tradition of complaining of anything:
“I do not know how others are, but I do not think there was another nation more vaicinous, more pessimistic and less resilience than ours. If it is raining, why it is raining, if it’s hot, it’s too hot, if it’s cold- it’s too cold, if something is done somewhere, yes, why did this, you had to do something else, if. We have continuously the impression (I do not know where this mentality of a small and humble people) that others are smarter, more beautiful or better than us. If you read the comments on Reddit, and not only, at least 50% of those who comment (Romanians), I say that Romanians are stupid, that Romania is shit, that everything is bad, that nothing good in this country has been done, etc. To the brothers who think so, to know that it is not, we are nothing more than others, nowhere are the streets paved with gold, the difference between us and those outside is the mentality, the pride and the way we refer to problems. ”
The same commentator claims that in any country there was food, envy and stupidity: “Nobody prevents us from saying loudly when something is not ok, no one prevents us from accepting lies and bosses, no one prevents us from telling the truth out loud. When we realize (more and more) that we can do this and keep our heads up, without fear and without letting us intimidated, most of the problems you are talking about can be solved. If the society shows what it looks like, you know that it is not only the fault of the politicians, it is our fault, our mentality as a people, the way we refer to daily problems and society. For the most part, these things led us all here. Otherwise, you do what you think is best for you. “
