A teacher asked a group of teachers a question that heated the spirits, again, between teachers and students.
The confusion of the person who asked for the opinion of colleagues, without mentioning which category he belongs to, sparked a wave of comments on a social media group, reigniting disputes between teachers and learners.
“Hello! I have a question. If students have their last English or religion class, can teachers leave? Everyone has a different opinion on this subject. And another question: is it true that you cannot put 2 hours of AVAP in the same day or one hour of physical education and music in the same day? It is not the first year in education, but I have never heard of these things. Thank you!” is the message that started the “storm”.
“Teachers and teachers are assigned 20 hours a week. If I exceed 20 hours I can leave”a colleague expressed his opinion.
“My boy’s teacher never left before the children, no matter what time it was, she never left them alone. And they were good, she knew how to train them”someone else chimed in with a comment.
“This is a custom that has remained for several years now. The same problem is when they have class with teachers. The teacher stays until the appointed time and teaches the students to the teacher, but the teacher does not wait at the appointed time to teach the students to the teacher. They have the right to a break,” another commenter chimed in on the discussion.
“It’s like that in any workplace, you finish your job and go home peacefully. But there are probably schools where . I guess everything related to his class. Yes, sometimes this is also a performance!”,
Others explained that the layout may depend on school policy, teacher personality, etc.
“You can leave, but morally it’s not good. You are responsible for your class. If something happens, you will be called, because you are
However, not all members of the group on the social network agreed with the idea that it is the teacher’s job to stay until the end of the day’s program. “The teacher who has the last class should do well to lead the children. We wait for him all the break, we prepare the children for the class and at best he comes on time (sometimes even 3-5-7 minutes)”, a teacher rebelled.
If something happens, “leave your parents’ phone numbers on the desk. The teacher can call”the teacher also provided the solution.
“Years ago I told my fellow teachers that I wouldn’t wait for them (after repeated abuse) and so I do. After the doorbell rang, I left the classroom.” another teacher explained how they do it.
“To such a question… I say that it would be good to bring your children home, feed them, clean for you, etc. Hello… it’s about TEACHING FRAMEWORK not baby sitters. Is that exactly what your teacher used to do to you? The garden is big!”, was the reaction of another member of the group.
Someone else wanted to know what to do when recess is over, the teacher has to go to class, the teacher has left, and the parent still hasn’t picked up the child.
“You are not their mother!!!!! Children have a mother and a father,” was one of the answers.
“Have you ever put a pen in a student’s hand?”
“What do you mean
Other members of the group said that if he stayed after he finished his classes, he would be in a situation where he would be overscheduled. If a non-didactic activity is mentioned in the timetable, he can stay in school instead.
“Normally it should stay. That they still don’t do the remedies. Teachers spend 20 hours in the classroom plus breaks between classes. They all finish at 13:00 at the latest,” the opinion that has inflamed spirits on other occasions also appeared at last.
Although the commentators were repeatedly asked as an argument the normative act in which the supported ones are provided, no one could point to it.
Some teachers invoked, instead, the custom of the school. “We, for example, enter at 8.00 and leave when the children leave; it doesn’t matter what time they have, we stay in the school. That’s what we’re asked to do”a teacher replied.
“When I was a primary school student, 20 years ago, the teacher used to take us to the gate in a row, and not just us, all the 1st-4th graders”, another member of the group intervened. “You are only “mom” during the program. In the morning, teachers’ children are not expected at the gate. Each parent is responsible for the child arriving at school on time, so the parent must also ensure their departure home after the schedule. And the teachers are also parents and they must also be present to pick up their children. Teachers are not babysitters!”called another teacher to the extent.
“To remain in the care of the teacher until the age of 18”
“The best option would be the following: to bring the children at the beginning of the preparatory class and to remain in the care of the teacher until they are 18 years old. Then it is possible for the teachers and parents to be satisfied with the work of the female teachers and to stop discussing the endless discussion that the teacher STAYS only 3, 4 hours a day! And by the way….those of you who think like that, have you ever put a pen in the hand of a student and taught him to write even one letter correctly?”the discussion heated up again.
As for AVAP, many said that it is preferable to have it on different days, others argued that, on the contrary, there are assignments that cannot be completed in one hour. “This year, two hours of AVAP in one day were banned. It is an anomaly, because one hour is not enough to complete a job,” another teacher pointed out.
“I don’t know if you are a teacher or not, but to your question – If the students have their last English or religion class, can the teachers leave? – it would have been right to continue with
“Insist on the 20 hours. You have one of your own. We are in school 23-24 hours/week. In 2, 3 or 4 days, primary school students have hours up to 13″, answered a teacher.
“Yes, I really have a problem with this number of hours and with being in school. I have been working as a teacher since 1991. In the same school, a PJ with 6 structures and 54 teaching staff. In these years I have seen many changes, imposed by the education system, the social aspect, the economic one, etc. I saw how children’s motivation for learning decreased. But also of the teaching staff for the job they do. I’m not talking about you, don’t get me wrong. I say so, in general. But, if we want generations of well-prepared and well-educated students, then we, the teachers, must also respect some norms and principles. I think you spend more than 20 hours in school, most teachers do, but when I see such questions on this group I really feel a disappointment. I wish you all the best and may you have good and strong children!”, the teacher tried to end the controversy.
However, the discussion is not over. “I’ve been working in education since 1989. I also have a certificate. I’m a serious teacher, but I’m tired of being taken advantage of. I learned late that it’s healthy to set limits. I’ve had a lot of trouble because of fellow teachers who didn’t come to class on time or didn’t come at all. It also bothers me that in the windows I’m sent to replace those who miss school very easily”, other examples from schools were also given.
“We know that out of the 20 hours of teaching, 4 or 5 hours belong to the teachers of English, sports, religion. However, the teacher has a 20-hour norm, just like the teachers who actually teach the 20 hours they have in the norm. And then, is it right for the teacher to go home and not be in school for the 20 hours he has the norm? I’m just exposing a situation that happened in a school: a 2nd grade student fell in physical education class, what can the teacher do if the class teacher has gone home? Who is looking after the other 20 children? minutes. Who stays with the child and watches him until he arrives? The teacher leaves because he has time in another class) It’s a personal point of view, consider it as such”another situation was reported.
The teachers replied that things can be the other way around.
“But if during math class a student is sick and the teacher goes to the bathroom with him, who are the others supervised by?”, the discussions continued.
“If you are a teacher, do you stay in the school until your class finishes?”
“Where does it say that the teacher must finish the program at 12 o’clock? Teachers teach 20 hours and often have windows or have to go from one school to another. Often they have classes until 3 o’clock. And they don’t complain so much anymore. Nowadays teachers are PRIMARY EDUCATION TEACHERS. Does this title tell you something? Do you think it’s right to complain that you stay in school until 1 p.m.? Gone are the times with the “teacher” and the primary level until 12 o’clock. We have to adapt to the current times. All teachersi”, another commentator put the teachers to the test again.
“No one’s complaining, lady. We pretend to go home when we finish our classes, just like you do. In addition, we are employed. If you are a teacher, do you stay in the school until your class finishes? I don’t think so. You have something with the teachers. You seem envious, frustrated. Very bad attitude. Wicked. They don’t honor you”it came to hard words.
“Is there anything or any situation that teachers or professors are not responsible for?”another member of the group wanted to know.
“We are still not held responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs, but our supreme chief will take care to prove that too,” the answer also arrived.
